Brake question

[DangerViking]

For those of you who've used slotted rotors, how much of a difference has it made compared with blank rotors, as far as stopping power? I'm not much concerned with looks, since the All Trac is a born sleeper, and tricking it out just ends up looking silly :P

Basically I'm looking at getting Brembo rotors for front and rear, and the difference between blanks and slotted is about the same price as stainless steel lines (since we're putting them on everyone else's car, I may as well get them too :D ). So, considering I'm a poor-ass mofo, where am I going to get the most bang for my buck?

[wgnths]

depends on what you want to do with the car i think....if you want the most performance, get the slotted rotors/ss lines! i loved them on my spec, better stopping, but more important..more consitent stopping power! otherwise, if your rotors are ok, then we could switch to some better pads and ss lines which would work much better than your setup now. :wink:

[DangerViking]

Well, my setup now completely sucks :) I'm thinking that my rotors would need to be machined no matter what I do, because with very light braking I can feel the pedal pulsing, thinking they're warped or something. Definately getting new pads (Porterfield R4-S most likely), and SS lines, and new rotors. Just trying to decide which would be the best to start with, or do at the same time.

[wgnths]

do at same time!! much easier! you know this!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

[wgnths]

tirerack has lines and hawk pads in stock for your car..that where i ordered from. they were fast w shipping.

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/results.jsp?category=Pads&scat=Pads&category=Lines&scat=Lines&autoMake=Toyota&autoModel=Celica+All-Trac&autoModClar=&autoYear=1989&brand=all&perfcat=perf&x=111&y=10

[DangerViking]

Yeah yeah :P
Brakes are probably the easiest thing we've done so far on any of the cars. Well, except for swapping wheels on the spec-v. I mean, anybody could do that without messing it up, right guys?

The downside to doing it all at once is that I can't do any of it til I have all the parts, and I don't see myself with that much $ for a while. So I'm most likely gonna have to do it in stages.

[wgnths]

ok then, well check the rotors first...if they are warped then you'll need those first! otherwise, maybe you can have them turned?

[DangerViking]

They've only got the rears with the Hawk HPS. damn them! and I read somewhere that the porterfields are the best pads for the AllTrac, anyone have any opinion on Porterfield vs. Hawk?

[moxie]

Yeah yeah :P
Brakes are probably the easiest thing we've done so far on any of the cars. Well, except for swapping wheels on the spec-v. I mean, anybody could do that without messing it up, right guys?

The downside to doing it all at once is that I can't do any of it til I have all the parts, and I don't see myself with that much $ for a while. So I'm most likely gonna have to do it in stages.

Poor bastard

[wgnths]

ive never heard anything on porterfield, but if your getting that info from all trac owners, then i would go with that! anything is better than stock!

[DangerViking]

sounds good to me :)

So my options for starters are:
1) new pads + machined rotors
2) new slotted rotors
3) new blank rotors + pads
4) new blank rotors + ss lines
5) new pads + ss lines (kinda silly, since my rotors are probably slightly warped)

I'm leaning towards #3 so far, and then toss on the SS lines next chance I get (especially considering the alltrac board may be doing another group buy soon). But then, it also depends on how much difference I'd see in stopping power on blanks vs slotted, assuming everything else is constant. Is it worthwhile to get just slotted rotors now, or blanks + pads?

[DangerViking]

Other option: Rebuilt front calipers (Around $80 for the pair). No reason to believe the calipers are bad, but with it being an '88, there's really no reason to believe they're good either ;)

[kev]

Pads will offer more braking benefit than rotors.

Carbotech Bobcat's are a great pad for the street.
If you don't mind brake dust or if your wheels are black/gunmetal, then the carbotech panther plus pads are AWESOME.

[DangerViking]

No luck :( nobody makes parts for my car. lol

[EVIL 8]

blank rotors, pads, lines and fluids...hey, there's MOTUL fluid at Erins garage I bet... :twisted:

[DangerViking]

lol and how would you know how well all that stuff works out? oh wait... :P

[EVIL 8]

lol and how would you know how well all that stuff works out? oh wait... :P

I still don't know how it works...haven't drive the car since...waiting until Wedensady to fix my POSITIVE CAMBER!! I found out why the outside tread was wearing...0.02 front camber.... :roll:

They put positive camber on an AWD car...genuis, pure genius!!
Taking it back tomorrow with my own specs...-1.75 degrees all the way around with 0 toe...then I am having the tires balanced again...