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motorbreath
09-02-2005, 12:02 PM
it's finally september, and it's again time to start daydreaming about track days. i just wanted to post, so we're all thinking about having our cars in shape.

keep in mind that there are typically much fewer loaner helmets (compared to Solo2 events), so you might think about peeping sales at local moto shops. you need a helmet to ride along, too.

also, we do pre-event tech inspections here at SURGE for HPDE (street) cars. remember to bring your helmet to tech.

Max Power
09-02-2005, 01:14 PM
Yeah, and when he says turn your head and cough, do it.

wgnths
09-02-2005, 03:14 PM
i'll probably be running the wagon for a bit, until the 240 is ready which will be..........umm? besides that, it needs to be registered/emissioned which it wont pass. i need to find another way to get it registered. :x and i have my helmet.

wgnths
09-15-2005, 12:48 PM
So whos going!!? if you havent done a track event, then you need to attend the saturday hpde class which is awesome because they teach you the course and some good basics. then you can have ride-a-long instruction. sunday you can run alone all day....myself, ryan and marion will be running sunday, for anyone that wants to join or come and watch/hang. there will be drifting going on as well. :) We want a good Surge presents at the tracks from here on out.

pickinicholas
09-15-2005, 01:22 PM
So whos going!!? if you havent done a track event, then you need to attend the saturday hpde class which is awesome because they teach you the course and some good basics. then you can have ride-a-long instruction. sunday you can run alone all day....myself, ryan and marion will be running sunday, for anyone that wants to join or come and watch/hang. there will be drifting going on as well. :) We want a good Surge presents at the tracks from here on out.

Where do I sign up for the HPDE class? I want to do that... I don't know about the Sunday driving yet though.

wgnths
09-15-2005, 01:31 PM
theres a link to register here
http://www.az240sx.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18936

once you do the hpde your good to go from then on! i'll probably do the next one after this.

motorbreath
09-19-2005, 04:51 PM
I was hoping for better, but it looks like we're getting a $20 Surge discount this time around. Hopefully, we can get a better price soon, especially for "Team" members.

Definitely try to come out to watch and just check it out, especially if you're thinking about running in the future. So far, they only have this weekend and December 3rd-4th scheduled. It's pretty much like an auto-x day , where it's free to watch (unlike mox's "dates").

As usual, they're running on both Saturday and Sunday. Drifting sessions are typically on Sunday, only. There will probably be more chance to ride along on Saturday, though.

wgnths
09-19-2005, 04:58 PM
that works for me! and if anyone wants to kill some time, come down and at least watch/hang for a bit! especially with the large turnout we had at autox, it would be cool to see what running on the track is like. :wink:

kev
09-19-2005, 07:24 PM
Hrmmm....$20 for a 20 minute session! I think I'm going to have to free up my Saturday...hell yeah.

20 minutes is long enough to have some serious fun, yet short enough to not cook your brake fluid and tires!

4 hot lap sessions might be another story :)

wgnths
09-19-2005, 07:33 PM
do it!!!!!!

F-This
09-19-2005, 08:38 PM
Can I come watch? THe z will be in Vegas :cry: Or maybe run the truck? :D

kev
09-19-2005, 09:22 PM
Can I come watch? THe z will be in Vegas :cry: Or maybe run the truck? :D

Send the truck to vegas and take the Z to the track where it belongs!

yepee
09-20-2005, 06:16 AM
Frig! I would love to be there Sat. But I have to friggin work :x I would have to switch with another manager... and thats not going to happen :(

F-This
09-20-2005, 06:18 AM
Can I come watch? THe z will be in Vegas :cry: Or maybe run the truck? :D

Send the truck to vegas and take the Z to the track where it belongs!

I'm too dumb for that, though :lol: Plus I had already made plans with a buddy to go off roading... But my heart belongs at the track :twisted:

pickinicholas
09-20-2005, 06:27 AM
It's going to be fun this weekend.

F-This
09-20-2005, 07:19 AM
So when are you guys heading there? I will gladly go watch and/or ride along :D Have Helmet, will travel :lol:

Also, if anyone wants, you are MORE than welcome to crash here the night before. I am literally 10 minutes away from PIR... And have two spare beds plus couches :lol:

pickinicholas
09-20-2005, 07:45 AM
I'm wet with anticipation for this!

motorbreath
09-20-2005, 10:10 AM
I was hoping for better, but it looks like we're getting a $20 Surge discount this time around. Hopefully, we can get a better price soon, especially for "Team" members.


sorry about my ungood grammer. that's $20 off the one-day fee, as in you pay $130 instead of $150.

wgnths
09-20-2005, 12:04 PM
i may by some chance, make it over there at some point on saturday. more than likely not. i shall be there sunday running though, along with marion and ryan. sunday you will see the u.s. drift running too. :wink:

wgnths
09-21-2005, 03:48 PM
kev you running saturday!? marion got you the hook up for a session :D and who else is going, at least to watch? and if your cool, you'll wear your surge shirts. :lol:

pickinicholas
09-21-2005, 04:06 PM
kev you running saturday!? marion got you the hook up for a session :D and who else is going, at least to watch? and if your cool, you'll wear your surge shirts. :lol:

I'll be running on Saturday...

kev
09-21-2005, 04:32 PM
I will be running Saturday, and I will be sportin the Surge shirt :)

I'm so tempted to bring out the r compounds, hehe...but I won't!

pickinicholas
09-21-2005, 04:47 PM
I will be running Saturday, and I will be sportin the Surge shirt :)

I'm so tempted to bring out the r compounds, hehe...but I won't!

I wish I had R compounds... speaking of which... BRYAN, when do I get to go have my tires put on?!

wgnths
09-21-2005, 05:41 PM
i wish i didnt have es 100's :x

Bphilly
09-21-2005, 09:24 PM
When they get here BRA. he said a couple of days....call me tomorrow and remind me to call him,

motorbreath
09-22-2005, 04:53 PM
I forgot to mention,

for anybody that's going to run (Erin, Mox, Kev), we can pre-tech your cars here today/tomorrow.

moxie
09-22-2005, 06:26 PM
Sweet, I will try to stop by :)

pickinicholas
09-22-2005, 07:55 PM
I forgot to mention,

for anybody that's going to run (Erin, Mox, Kev), we can pre-tech your cars here today/tomorrow.

I'll need to stop by tomorrow

kev
09-22-2005, 09:21 PM
I'll have to try and sneak a 1.5 hour lunch and head down to Surge tomorrow :)

Ruiner77
09-23-2005, 07:42 AM
Im going to try and be there sunday, and talk to the wife and mabye bring the baby and her along to check it out on saturday. :D

Marion, is there any way i could give ya an order for a shirt and have ya bring it out on sunday? i cant make it to the shop before then, and id be more than happy to reprezent-yo

Whats the seating like there? do we just sit in the grandstands, or is there somwehere else? (grass seats...etc.)

F-This
09-23-2005, 08:04 AM
Anyone wanna offer me a ride along? :)

moxie
09-23-2005, 09:57 AM
Sure thing man :)

If you come out, I'll take you for a ride in my rolley-polley stock suspension monster

F-This
09-23-2005, 10:06 AM
Sweet. What time are you going? And you are going on Sunday, right?

wgnths
09-23-2005, 10:11 AM
you can ride with me too big boy. both of us sunday. i dont know about seating other than the grandstands, as i've never run pir. i'll get to the shop today to tech.

motorbreath
09-23-2005, 10:35 AM
you can sit in the granstands, but everybody's always on the infield.

maybe the better answer is bring chairs, if you've got some. i'm going to try to set up the Surge Circus tent way on the west side of the infield, which ends up being sort of away from everybody. it's sub-optimal for bizzedness visibility, but it's ideal for seeing the track from the shade, which is why we're out there after all. however, the NASA folks might want to keep all of the vendors in one area.

to get to the track, it's I10 to Avondale Blvd, south on Avondale. the entrance to the track is (typically) the first entrance after the bridge. it's right after the bridge and kind of easy to miss. you'll sign something, drive through the tunnel and into the paddock.

motorbreath
09-23-2005, 10:36 AM
Marion, is there any way i could give ya an order for a shirt and have ya bring it out on sunday? i cant make it to the shop before then, and id be more than happy to reprezent-yo


size?
i'll bring some shirts.

motorbreath
09-23-2005, 10:40 AM
Anyone wanna offer me a ride along? :)

i'll take anybody that wants to go, too (anybody that doesn't get car sick). there will be 4 20-minute sessions each day. I'll be there Saturday & Sunday.

be prepared, they charge a passenger fee, unlike Solo2, and you have to sign a waiver to get a wristband. it's normally $10, but (I think) we have a vendor deal where it's $1 for us.

moxie
09-23-2005, 11:56 AM
Yep we three will be there on sunday fo sure

kev
09-23-2005, 02:06 PM
I am tech'ed and ready.

pickinicholas
09-23-2005, 03:09 PM
So do you think that 395whp is going to be enough for this? 8)

(just got back from DynoComp)

Ruiner77
09-23-2005, 05:06 PM
So do you think that 395whp is going to be enough for this? 8)

(just got back from DynoComp)

Nice one Nick :D

Marion.... XXL and how much will i owe ya?

and then can someone give me a heads up on the seating.... gonna have the baby with us, so i want to be prepared :D

F-This
09-23-2005, 06:34 PM
So do you think that 395whp is going to be enough for this? 8)

(just got back from DynoComp)
Show off :P

I'll make it for sure Sunday... :D

kev
09-24-2005, 11:49 AM
Good times! I rode with Marion and drove once. I absolutely LOVE the infield portion of the track, but I fear the oval.

Nick, we need to fix those limp mirrors of yours ASAP. To give you motivation, I think we shall nickname you "Limp" until those mirrors are fixed :twisted:

When I left, Nick's instructor was still working with him. Looks like he got a good instructor and I'm sure he'll say he felt he got his money's worth. Props to him for going full on at all these autox and track events recently.

Ruiner77
09-24-2005, 12:29 PM
needless to say we didnt make it out there... had my neice here today and i just dont think she would have done well lol. But we will be there tomorrow.

pickinicholas
09-24-2005, 05:20 PM
Good times! I rode with Marion and drove once. I absolutely LOVE the infield portion of the track, but I fear the oval.

Nick, we need to fix those limp mirrors of yours ASAP. To give you motivation, I think we shall nickname you "Limp" until those mirrors are fixed :twisted:

When I left, Nick's instructor was still working with him. Looks like he got a good instructor and I'm sure he'll say he felt he got his money's worth. Props to him for going full on at all these autox and track events recently.

Yeah, my instructor kicked major ASS!!!! Not only did he talk me through each run, he sat after the runs and went over the course one turn at a time, and then we went in his car on the HDPE3 run to demonstrate what he was talking about... He was VERY cool... the last session I hammered it and had the most fun and was the smoothest transitioning run I had. I had a blast and it was WELL worth the money!

F-This
09-25-2005, 03:32 PM
That was fun... Next time I will either a) remember my helmet and money or b) actually run :lol:

Ruiner77
09-25-2005, 06:47 PM
Well we showed up for a few hours :P. We all had a good time including my boy. It was a tad warm out for him, but he did better than i thought he would. The wife and i had a good time. Glad we were able to see Marion, Ryan, and Erin make the runs, and then catch some drifting before we had to leave. We were going to say goodbye but you guys werent at the tent when we were goign to go. I took some pictures with my digital cam.... i was goign to bring my good 35mm and lenses with me, but realized that the batteries were dead just when we were going to go. So these arent the best photos, but they turned out alright. There are a few of my boy and wife mixed in there too. I didnt get any of you Marion cus i didnt realize that the curve was open to spectate until your sister came over and told us... :D.

http://adobe.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=oconxax.11xr271h&x=0&y=bfjcgy

You dont have to sign in to the site, just click the 'sign up later' button on that page.

moxie
09-25-2005, 08:42 PM
Thanks for taking pics :)

it was a pretty good time. I had a run in with the gravel, which required some assistance from the Toyo guys, but I ended up fine and had a good time.


It was pretty awesome. PIR is a great track, very challenging but a good mix of everything.

Whoever didn't come out... you missed it big time.


P.S. Guy with the white lancer POS was a douche today too... so don't worry about him. Almost got cold cocked today... asshole.

Ruiner77
09-25-2005, 09:18 PM
well they arent the best pictures, but if either you or erin want copies of the full size shots, i can email em to ya.

what happened with the lancer? i musta missed that.

moxie
09-26-2005, 05:27 AM
He was just being a dick in the debriefs.

Apparently everyone out there was too slow for him.

I'm serious though... He's a total tool, and one day someone is gonna lay him out.

Ruiner77
09-26-2005, 05:52 AM
...lovely... gotta love some people.. ugg.

1bad_ej20
09-26-2005, 08:47 AM
Wish I coulda made it out. But it's good to see you guys out on the track. Will definitely make the next event.

Ruiner77
09-26-2005, 08:52 AM
I checked the NASA site, and it only lists one more track day and thats at Firebird. Are there going to be any more events at PIR? What are the other org's that hold days like this? My brother in law is comin out in november and he'd LOVE to check it out.

pickinicholas
09-26-2005, 09:19 AM
He was just being a dick in the debriefs.

Apparently everyone out there was too slow for him.

I'm serious though... He's a total tool, and one day someone is gonna lay him out.

I felt like doing it on Saturday... all he freaking does is complain!!! And thinks he and his car is the shit!! I wanted to kick his ass!! But he was faster than I was, so I really didn't have room to talk :oops: I just wish that he'd freaking SETTLE DOWN. He is not a pro and we weren't racing for position or times, so why does it matter. He was all over my ass one run and I thought that he was going to rearend me, I don't trust his "skills" because I think that his "skills" stem from his enormous stupidity and his WANT to be cool and accepted.

Sorry for the rant, I had to sit through his bitching and moaning through the class sessions and had enough of his stupid ass comments and complaining! :roll:

1bad_ej20
09-26-2005, 09:23 AM
that sucks....if he's really that fast and skilled he should be running HPDE 3. Guess he's just not as good as he thinks he is. I wasn't there or anything, but if someone is complaining that they're so much faster than everyone else out there, why haven't they moved up in classes.

Oh well, some people just gotta be asses.

moxie
09-26-2005, 09:58 AM
I asked him the same thing point-blank.

He said he wasn't fast enough... LOL

Jack ass...


I just refused to take his shit.
Erin was more pissed than me... I thought he was gonna slug him one right there.

LOL


Seriously though Nick. No worries. He was a lame ass...

pickinicholas
09-26-2005, 10:02 AM
I asked him the same thing point-blank.

He said he wasn't fast enough... LOL

Jack ass...


I just refused to take his shit.
Erin was more pissed than me... I thought he was gonna slug him one right there.

LOL


Seriously though Nick. No worries. He was a lame ass...

He was bitching about us with more horsepower punching it in the straights... which was total BS... just because his car puts down like 90whp doesn't mean we have to hit the brakes to let him pass us... I think my car is faster than him at idle... he needs to get more power in his ghetto lancer and stop being such a bitch.

pickinicholas
09-26-2005, 10:04 AM
It's sad how upset this gets me... I am usually VERY laid back and it takes alot to get me riled up... Who cares?! The guy is a dueche I'm letting it go now.

moxie
09-26-2005, 10:13 AM
It's all good :)

We all just needed to let it out.


Just so you know, most people I talked to thought he was a tard.


Apparently he is also a Dick on the Evo forums.

motorbreath
09-26-2005, 10:16 AM
on the tool, he was excessively moronic. i heard nick and shawn (blue 05 STI) talking about it on saturday, but i actually witnessed his ass-hattery on Sunday morning while waiting for Ryan & Erin in the drivers' meeting.

to Nick, Erin, and Ryan, please just disregard this jerkoff. i feel bad that there was this kind of negativity on your first NASA experience. he was way, way out of line. for the record, i think he's semi-retarded (Gobbles! [/timmy]), and nobody (including myself and the instructors) wanted to deal with him at all. nobody has a right to say anything about speed in HPDE1&2.

i know you guys will all be back, but i hope it didn't turn off any other newcomers to returning. i know i would not have been happy with that sort of situation the first couple of times that i went out. i was scared sh!tless, by myself, and the slowest car out (by a far margin) for my first few events. i might not have returned if somebody gave me any grief.

kev
09-26-2005, 10:26 AM
He was bitching about us with more horsepower punching it in the straights... which was total BS

That definitely would not apply to you Nick. You have way more power than I, but you let me pass you after turn 9. You waited a long ass time for me to get by, because I would exit that turn at like 35 mph way OUT of VTEC. Even that lancer would have pulled on me heh.

The lancer guy ran in my group, and I don't remember him saying much during the one de-briefing I attended. He was never on my butt trying to pass me ;)

moxie
09-26-2005, 10:27 AM
Thanks Marion :)

I know I'm not turned off, as I just accepted his idiocy as par for the course.
You can't keep all the idiots out all the time, right?


I actually hope to see him again actually. Maybe on the street so I can punch a few teeth out ;)


Gobbles!

motorbreath
09-26-2005, 10:27 AM
by the way, thanks to everybody that came out and shared our shade. i had a friggin awesome good time thanks to all of you guys.

kev, nick, ryan, and erin kicked ass on their collective first trackday events. i'm really going to have to try much harder to stay in front of these guys, based on how they drive the first time they come out.

too bad for you, i've recently attended Brady D's "Iceman" ten-minute school of driving.

kev
09-26-2005, 10:36 AM
Marion, you are the man! Thanks for dragging my butt out there. I'm still scared of the oval :(

I heard Brady took a spin in the STi...I'm too scared to drive with Brady. It's not his driving I fear, but the damn oval. I have oval-phobia.

moxie
09-26-2005, 10:40 AM
The oval is a little freaky, but kinda cool at the same time...


Turn 5 and 6 scare me... maybe cause i spun

kev
09-26-2005, 10:42 AM
The oval is a little freaky, but kinda cool at the same time...


Turn 5 and 6 scare me... maybe cause i spun

I loved the infield...NO FEAR baby! I got some oversteer in the 180 sweeper (can't remember what turn), but that's just because I got on the gas SOOO early in anticipation of that little "straight."

wgnths
09-26-2005, 10:54 AM
kev, a few more sessions out there and the oval will be no biggie. i was really scared my first session, especially the transition at the end. after 2 sessions, i was topping 4 th gear wide open and braking late into it doing over 100mph. it was awesome. i have no more fear of pir at all. my rear tires are getting slippery though.

As far as douchebigelow in the lancer ES, i confronted him in hopes of him saying something stupid. He complained about everyone, and offered his expertise as well :lol: however, to end the day i made it a goal to find him on the track, ride his bumper and destroy him. Goal met. i rode him hard thru the second half of the infield and onto the oval, where he wouldnt give me the pass by until i started passing on my own. after the straight away, i never saw him again. :D f him. he was the only negative out there. otherwise, i learned lots had a blast and cant wait to do it again.

Ruiner77
09-26-2005, 10:58 AM
My wife and i were goign to join you i the shade there after your sister (marion) said there was room, but the boy was getting a bit too warm and we had to head home.

The infield scares me more than the oval, but then again i wasnt in a car :P. It just seems like the straight run would be easier than the twisties in there. Both looked fun as hell though. I may ask to ride along with someone next time.... so if anyone doesnt mind a 220lb weight in their car id love to join in.

moxie
09-26-2005, 10:58 AM
The oval is a little freaky, but kinda cool at the same time...


Turn 5 and 6 scare me... maybe cause i spun

I loved the infield...NO FEAR baby! I got some oversteer in the 180 sweeper (can't remember what turn), but that's just because I got on the gas SOOO early in anticipation of that little "straight."

I loved everything else, except that...

I spun right before the carousel and filled my car with dust, and jammed some gravel into the tire bead.

Freaked me out...



Carousel was awesome.

WRX with rear bar = awesome balance. Just set the wheel, and steer with the gas... incredible.

I do need to get a wheel balanced though.. lol

yepee
09-26-2005, 11:01 AM
well except for the "icehole" sounds like you guys had a great time!
wish I could've been there, you guys think my little Sentra couldve kept pace out there? I would like some info on doing this...

wgnths
09-26-2005, 11:43 AM
spec v would do great out there with its tq. you can power out of the corners and you have enough to get up to speed in the oval. ovals are scary because it wants to push u up towards the wall, then at the end you have to dive down and transition to flat. no biggie after a few sessions though.

moxie
09-26-2005, 11:52 AM
Yeah, the oval is a little scary, specially cause everyone tells you people die there.

That transition to flat didn't worry me too much, though my line through that decreasing corner just never went 100% right for me.


Spec V would have been fun. With the torque and LSD you could ripped it up.

pickinicholas
09-26-2005, 12:14 PM
on the tool, he was excessively moronic. i heard nick and shawn (blue 05 STI) talking about it on saturday, but i actually witnessed his ass-hattery on Sunday morning while waiting for Ryan & Erin in the drivers' meeting.

to Nick, Erin, and Ryan, please just disregard this jerkoff. i feel bad that there was this kind of negativity on your first NASA experience. he was way, way out of line. for the record, i think he's semi-retarded (Gobbles! [/timmy]), and nobody (including myself and the instructors) wanted to deal with him at all. nobody has a right to say anything about speed in HPDE1&2.

i know you guys will all be back, but i hope it didn't turn off any other newcomers to returning. i know i would not have been happy with that sort of situation the first couple of times that i went out. i was scared sh!tless, by myself, and the slowest car out (by a far margin) for my first few events. i might not have returned if somebody gave me any grief.

:P I knew he was "different" since the first time I saw him in your shop...

wgnths
09-26-2005, 12:14 PM
yeah that decreasing corner is weird. i figured out where to brake and downshift, but i tend to come in a little too hot and get a little loose.

kev
09-26-2005, 12:16 PM
kev, a few more sessions out there and the oval will be no biggie. i was really scared my first session, especially the transition at the end. after 2 sessions, i was topping 4 th gear wide open and braking late into it doing over 100mph. it was awesome. i have no more fear of pir at all. my rear tires are getting slippery though.


My car is setup a little bit loose. The reason for my fear, is that my car tends to have more snap oversteer that you have to be VERY quick to counter. I'm only about 50% or so when it comes to being quick enough to catch. Not a high enough rate to charge the oval...YET 8)

kev
09-26-2005, 12:17 PM
Spec V would have been fun. With the torque and LSD you could ripped it up.

I totally agree. George you woulda ripped it up :) In my s2k i was probably doing 6/10ths in the oval and 8/10ths in the infield. If I had my spec v, I would have been doing 8/10ths in the oval and 9/10ths in the infield ;)

My confidence with a spec V > My confidence in the S2k

wgnths
09-26-2005, 12:24 PM
Thanks to marion for getting us involved too. i wouldnt have had the balls or know-how without. :) after yesterday, eric and i were actually talking about a spec v track car. that would be fun. and watching the drifting was awesome, but for some reason im thinking i want to set the 240 up for grip events now. im really comfortable with my wrx setup right now, its very controllable with slight oversteer, good turn in and good damping. this will all change this week when i put the cuscos in and more aggressive camber.

yepee
09-26-2005, 12:43 PM
I was gathering parts for a track car, I had the engine and I was about to get a hold of a tranny and I had a line on a cheap Sentra, I had a line for a roll cage... I almost had all of the pieces to the puzzle together. things changed and I got into autox... but I still want to hit the track

yepee
09-26-2005, 12:55 PM
Spec V would have been fun. With the torque and LSD you could ripped it up.

I totally agree. George you woulda ripped it up :) In my s2k i was probably doing 6/10ths in the oval and 8/10ths in the infield. If I had my spec v, I would have been doing 8/10ths in the oval and 9/10ths in the infield ;)

My confidence with a spec V > My confidence in the S2k
ok, I need you guys to give me a run down, car prep etc

kev
09-26-2005, 12:56 PM
Did anybody experience brake fade? I thought I did on one turn...but it really wasn't a factor as I just did one session. I will definitely get motul before my next venture.

yepee
09-26-2005, 01:03 PM
I'am concerned about the brake fluid too, stupid question, whats the easiest way of changing the fluid out? I wouldnt want to have brake problems on the track...... I like the way my fenders are shaped already :D

moxie
09-26-2005, 01:07 PM
I miss my Spec 5 sometimes.

:cry:


Then i get in the wagon and go "pssshhh"

8)

moxie
09-26-2005, 01:14 PM
I felt like the brakes were getting warmer as the event wore on, but no real fade. I started braking earlier as the sessions went on, especially for turn 9

motorbreath
09-26-2005, 01:29 PM
Did anybody experience brake fade? I thought I did on one turn...but it really wasn't a factor as I just did one session. I will definitely get motul before my next venture.

wondering about brake fade is like wondering if you're gay. you'll know. like you'll see a curve (on the track, or maybe a booby) and things just won't work out.

my Hawk HP+ pads continue to satisfy. i think brady said he cooked his, though.

motorbreath
09-26-2005, 01:34 PM
I'am concerned about the brake fluid too, stupid question, whats the easiest way of changing the fluid out? I wouldnt want to have brake problems on the track...... I like the way my fenders are shaped already :D

pump, pump, bleed. pump, pump, bleed.

we've got some ATe Blue (coming in). it's dyed blue so you know when you get the new stuff to the caliper. then, you can switch back next time you bleed out old fluid, blue to "colorless" to blue, and so on.

moxie
09-26-2005, 01:44 PM
wondering about brake fade is like wondering if you're gay. you'll know. like you'll see a curve (on the track, or maybe a booby) and things just won't work out.


LOL

yepee
09-26-2005, 01:58 PM
I'am concerned about the brake fluid too, stupid question, whats the easiest way of changing the fluid out? I wouldnt want to have brake problems on the track...... I like the way my fenders are shaped already :D

pump, pump, bleed. pump, pump, bleed.

we've got some ATe Blue (coming in). it's dyed blue so you know when you get the new stuff to the caliper. then, you can switch back next time you bleed out old fluid, blue to "colorless" to blue, and so on.
you mean no one makes a power bleeder? Hmmmm The color change thing is a great idea!

motorbreath
09-26-2005, 02:18 PM
you mean no one makes a power bleeder? Hmmmm The color change thing is a great idea!

oh yeah! i have one of those, too. i never think about using it, probably because i'm married. i did use it once, hoping to pull an evident air bubble out of a line. there's more cleanup, so i guess that's why i never use it.

phoenixZ33
09-26-2005, 04:25 PM
I cooked the brakes in the Z in two laps on Saturday, but that was mostly fluid as it was boiling and spilling all over the place. It's original fluid with about 70 autocrosses and 3-4 track events. No problems in the 240SX on Sunday however.

It took me about 4-5 track days to get really confident on the oval, and that was in a slow car. Street tires are easier.. Marions car would hit tire squeal around 90-92 and just cruise, that's good enough for me. R Compounds make it hard because you don't have as much tire noise.. my 240SX was hitting around 105 and it didn't make a sound, scared me to death (thought the car had a mind of its own!).

Either way, thanks to Marion for letting me drive his car. Looking back on it I think was a big wussy in turns 2-4, and again in 5, but maybe another day. STis are pretty fast! Not as fast as a Z though. haha.

If you want to get good at track events, autocross as much as possible. This was my first event since May, with about 15 autocrosses in a row during the summer. At PIR everything felt like it was in slow motion.. another AutoXer was saying the same thing. Not to say it's still not difficult out there, but you literally have 2-3 times the margin of error in some places. You can be four feet off a corner and run the same lap time.. something you can't get away with in AutoX.

Marion got really fast in his last session.. I thought I heard him say something about nick's 400hp being "not a big deal anymore". :twisted:

Next event is Arroyo Seco on October 22-23. I hope everyone goes to that, it'll be 5 times more fun than the PIR event!

pickinicholas
09-26-2005, 06:07 PM
Marion got really fast in his last session.. I thought I heard him say something about nick's 400hp being "not a big deal anymore". :twisted:


Ouch! :( Haha... I really need to get some more confidance on the track... the last run I did like 1000X better than the first though.

kev
09-26-2005, 06:30 PM
Nick, it's ALL about seat time. You cannot get fast if you don't practice. If you become a track whore like Brady you will get better quickly.

Track Whore = going to as many autoxes and track events as possible while putting everything else on the weekends aside :)

wgnths
09-26-2005, 07:56 PM
Brady had some nice looking 4 wheel drifts going in the sti. :D I will say that the Brembo Gt bbk is by far the best money i've spent on the wagon...they were very strong all day. im starting to like the wagon so much that im loosing some interest in the 240. although watching brady's car perform changes that again. must get 240 back up and running.

kev
09-26-2005, 08:28 PM
im starting to like the wagon so much that im loosing some interest in the 240.

I know somebody with a silver s2000 who might be interested in your 240 tongue3.gif

wgnths
09-26-2005, 08:37 PM
no!!!

phoenixZ33
09-26-2005, 10:25 PM
. im starting to like the wagon so much that im loosing some interest in the 240. although watching brady's car perform changes that again. must get 240 back up and running.

Take the 240SX out on the track and I bet you'll forget you even own a Subaru! It's like driving an STi, only RWD.. trying to control all that power is a hell of a lot of fun.

Or just let me drive your 240 on the track.. keep the miles off mine. haha

wgnths
09-27-2005, 10:47 AM
actually i'd love for you to take it out and see what it can do, and what needs work. the car is really set up for drift but im thinking i'd rather grip with it now. not sure how the nismo 2 way will be? my biggest concern is making sure the car is reliable, like yours seems to be and others are not. :lol:

phoenixZ33
09-27-2005, 11:24 AM
actually i'd love for you to take it out and see what it can do, and what needs work. the car is really set up for drift but im thinking i'd rather grip with it now. not sure how the nismo 2 way will be? my biggest concern is making sure the car is reliable, like yours seems to be and others are not. :lol:

i've never had any mechnical issues with mine, other than it runs hot when it's hot outside. Anything over 90-95 degrees and the temp creeps up there.. but half the other cars out there were too. a lot of those 240s you see are all hacked together, hence the reason they break down all the time.

yepee
09-27-2005, 11:35 AM
Erin, cant you trailer your 240 to the track or do they have to be "street legal"? I wanna go! :D

wgnths
09-27-2005, 11:38 AM
yeah i've noticed from the forum that they tend to use the cheapest means possible, which is fine but i want a solid, reliable car put together right with less worries.

Shek
09-27-2005, 04:15 PM
Hey guys Thanks again for the great welcome and shade! :)

I had a great time!

-Shek

wgnths
09-27-2005, 08:36 PM
who this be? blue sti guy!?

Ruiner77
09-28-2005, 06:27 AM
If it is, then there are some photos of him as well that i took. My digital cam can also take small movie clips. I took at least one of each of you guys. The quality is fairly shitty, but vid none the less LOLOL.

pickinicholas
09-28-2005, 07:43 AM
Hey guys Thanks again for the great welcome and shade! :)

I had a great time!

-Shek

It was good to meet you! Welcome to our little slice of intraweb paradise!

Shek
09-28-2005, 08:33 AM
<-- blue :)

moxie
09-28-2005, 09:40 AM
<-- blue :)

Welcome :)

It was nice to have met you.

Thanks for loaning me the tools. I Def appreciate it.

wgnths
09-28-2005, 10:47 AM
yep good to see you again! looked good out there!

Ruiner77
09-28-2005, 12:11 PM
So was that your blue sti in my photos then?

Shek
09-28-2005, 04:20 PM
So was that your blue sti in my photos then?

I was the only blue Suby out there running as far as I know. There was one other that sat by the motorhome of that guy that owns the AMP track but I never saw it move.

You going to post those images up here by chance :?:

moxie, np on the tools that's why I brought them.. I grabed them and though... hmm you never know. lol

Ruiner77
09-29-2005, 05:47 AM
So was that your blue sti in my photos then?

I was the only blue Suby out there running as far as I know. There was one other that sat by the motorhome of that guy that owns the AMP track but I never saw it move.

You going to post those images up here by chance :?:

moxie, np on the tools that's why I brought them.. I grabed them and though... hmm you never know. lol

I posted a link to the photos earlier in this thread :P Its just easier for me to post directly from Adobe than it is to hotlink them here. I have very limited space on my home account, so i only use that for small stuff. :P

EVIL 8
09-29-2005, 11:42 PM
<-- blue :)

Watched you run...looked good. Saw you behind a cobra on the infield, then 4 cars cars ahead of him by the next lap...LOL

Shek
10-05-2005, 03:29 PM
Hey I finally looked back through to the link of the images. Those are great, thanks! My wife's shots sucked.

Look at all that body roll, time to fork out some cash for springs, sway, and stifeners. Also since the event I have noticed some 'giant oil can' popping coming from the passenger rear on 5mph tight turns in parking lots. Struts I'm assuming but I need to get the car in the air to make sure nothing is loose. (check the lugs already just in case)

Thanks for the compliments Evil 8... that was so much fun it should be illegal!

Max Power
10-05-2005, 04:58 PM
Double check your rear swaybar to make sure it hasn't flipped. Although the STi struts are pretty notorious for popping over bumps (not too loud, more like a rattle... had it 2x on mine).

Shek
10-12-2005, 11:26 AM
Turns out it was just the tools in the little red toolbox I left in there... scared myself over nothing. lol